4/05/2009 11:00:00 PM
all bra burnin' and stuff,
i just don't get it,
oh for heaven's sake she's got a theme
I put those in the same category as plastic baby bathtubs. Extra baby equipment that wastes space. What's wrong with bathing that sweet baby in the kitchen sink? I could say nursing tarps are dumb, but I wasn't a nurser. What would know about hiding my knockers?
Amen. There is nothing discrete about those things.
And hey! Don't cover those beauties up! They are like 2 cup sizes bigger! Nurse that baby with pride and hope someone gets a peek!
After having to nurse on the train a few times, I have to say that I really didn't want a bunch of wierdos looking at my boobies. And it's all too possible if you have finicky nursers like a couple of mine were.
I couldn't tell from the picture on my phone, but I think I could see her woo woo.
Whatevs... I loved my nursing cover. And while I could have cared less who saw my ta-ta's I know all too well that other people don't want to be exposed to them. Discrete? No. Effective? Yes.
I'm too cheap to buy one, a blanket or jacket work just fine, even for my wiggly ones(I've nursed almost everywhere from the mall, restaurants with my in-laws, flying over the pacific). Plus I don't want to have to carry it everywhere I go. The Man isn't into me sharing the 'twins' with the rest of the world, so I cover up for him. I never thought a nursing cover was so that no one knew what was going on.
I love them! Who cares about covering up the ta-ta's, it's my muffin top that needs the privacy!!!
My friends that have them seem to love them. I have never had a use for one.
Also, my kids have never tolerated being covered up. They totally freak out.
unfortunately for me my kid isn't a content nurser, he's off then he's on then he's off again. plus, not kidding, for the first 4-5 months of nursing it was a two handed affair and i didn't have the capability of using just a blanket. that nursing cover saved me, and my boobs.discrete? not so much. the only thing between my father in law and my boobs, thank goodness.
Yeah, I don't get it either. I have never been one to cover up, eapecially not now with #4 -- I've learned how to be discreet.
Eh, I used one. I sewed it for $6. I was basically crap at nursing without exposing everything, so I needed a tent. You're right, it's not discrete by any means, but it worked.
I've never nursed. But someday when I do, I think I'll be a militant let-it-all-hang-out breastfeeder ... except, like Kalli said, around the in-laws. Uncovered nursing in the house of Hancock would be a death sentence for family relations.Being around uncovered nursing women doesn't bother me anymore than being around bottle-feeding women. Same diff, except one is cheaper. Plus the nursing cover makes the whole thing seem so furtive and squicky.
Someone made me a beautiful one and I admire as it sits collecting dust draped over a rocking chair. I don't have the dexterity or the patience to use it. Plus, I just can't be bothered.
Do you think they reinforce that women aren't 'supposed' to be nursing in public?
I don't so much care if people know what I'm doing under there. I just don't want anybody to SEE it. I don't really care if women nurse in public, but I do not want to see other peoples boobs (or other people to see mine). I would bet these work well for that.
I just whip it out. They do it everywhere else in the world and it's perfectly acceptable. If you have a problem with it--don't look. I don't do it out in front of everyone, I try to find a more discreet place. But come on! Nursing is a very natural thing. That's why women have breasts. Period.That's my philosophy. That and my kids have HATED being covered up while nursing.(Rookie's comment totally made me laugh.)
I loved my "big nursing cover". It made it so much more comfortable for me to nurse pretty much anywhere (yes, I was one of those!): the park, in church, in company. I didn't have to worry about a slipping blanket. I know some people who nurse discreetly with no covering and some who go about the business with no discretion whatsoever but the apron proved a good fit for me.
A few years ago when I was YW president, my very modest, very soft-spoken (also the bishop's wife at the time) Pers Prog Leader came into a Sunday meeting in tears one morning. I pulled her aside and asked her what was up. She (under cover of a flannel blankie) had been nursing one of her little uns, and some angry RS sister had ripped her apart for it. That got my hackles waaaaay up, and I was ready to fight. Luckily, I guess, my PPL wouldn't divulge the name of the offended. Nursing in public is totally okay with me and I could easily get militant in defense of the lactating. That said, our society has oversexualized everything, to the point that I think if I were one of the nursing mommies, I'd feel most at ease with a bit of a buffer between me and the boob-ogling world. Who cares if they know what I'm doing? Good for them! Good for me!
I've seen enough women be discreet about nursing to know that it can be done in almost any situation. And I've seen plenty of women who seem to be challenging the world by baring all. (This happened a lot on my planes.) Sure it's your right blah, blah blah... In my opinion it's a bit disrespectful to assume that everyone should be as comfortable with your breasts as you are, just because it's natural. It's just not that hard to keep it private. And if a nursing wrap helps- more power to you. And I agree with soybeanlover. I don't think any one is trying to fool anyone. It's obviously a nursing cover.Sorry- as a currently nursing 1st- time mom I have some opinions.
Part of me thinks they're not a symbol of how far we've come in making nursing return to acceptablity, they're a huge, brilliantly-colored symbol of how far we have to go.
My husband was a missionary in Hawaii. He witnessed several of his companions have minor breakdowns when native women nursed (uncovered) in front of them.That's how far we have to go. I hope someday we can send American boys out into the world knowing that they understand breasts are for feeding more than for lusting after.Don't even get me started on the stinky crowded mothers' lounges ...
My husband and I have talked about this extensively ... he was so embarrassed by the elders on his mission who made such a big deal of it. We tried to figure out how cultures get changed. I think more and more people just need to uncover. The more people see the uncovered, the more they'll be forced to adjust to it.And we have to stick up for each other. There was a post on FMH a long time ago about a woman who nursed in Sacrament meeting and someone complained about it in ward council ... so the bishop confronted her and she was mortified. If a bunch of women in her ward had banded together and spoken up in defense of public breastfeeding, I think they'd have won the battle. It has to be something on which we're all willing to make a stand. We can't just change the subject or let it slide when we hear people making fun of and acting scandalized by public nursers, past-the-age-of-one nursers, and shared nursers (you know, other people's babies). There are so many social taboos around breastfeeding, and it's just dumb. We have to speak up.
OH, everyone knows exactly what I'm doing under there. They just don't need to see it-believe me! (in fact, I'm looking for an even bigger one if that's possible because my babe loves to flash me as much as possible during his cozy mealtimes)
Do I want women to feel comfortable nursing? Of course. However, at what point, by donning these covers, are we conveying a message that it's NOT OK to be nursing here? And IS that a message that we're conveying, or is it something that we simply deal with by saying it's only a modesty issue?
You are right. The main reason I don't use mine is because I don't really feel like I should have to.And as far as how far we have to go,I have a number of good friends who don't want to/don't like breastfeeding because it makes them feel "dirty". Talk about indoctrination. 2.5 years ago my completely righteous twin brothers returned from missions to witness me breastfeeding my baby in my mother's family room. They were both mortified that I didn't hide in a different room. I (very lovingly sister-like) explained to them that my breasts were to feed my baby and that if it made them uncomfortable, they could go to another room (I am pretty discreet, I don't let it all hang out). Anyway, they are changed men this time around. I breastfeed my baby in front of them and they don't blink an eye. And it's helped my other sisters and sister in-law feel comfortable enough to breastfeed openly in my parents home.
These comments made me feel all tingly inside. Way more than the original post.
153351 - A - I know you, so your comment made me laugh.
There is another side to the coin, which is that there are a lot of mothers who are REALLY modest and the covers allow them to nurse anywhere they want. I have a dear friend who would rather die than have anyone other than her husband see her breasts (or her buns or cleavage or thighs) and without one of those she is just too anxious to even let her milk flow. (Not because she things nursing is icky or she is oversexualized, but because she takes modesty to be a part of her marriage vows.) So it is actually PRO nursing to her.I just wish people could nurse or not nurse without it being a political statement to someone. I would be peeved if my feeding policies were someone's soapbox.Do I care if you flash me your nips? No. Will I flash everyone mine? No. Only the lucky few.
Yes to La Yen. Because you don't HAVE to nurse uncovered. But you should be able to if you want to. All the rantings and you-go-girlings are for the ladies who don't want to use the tents.
We talk of modesty, of discretion, of finding a corner, and completely forget that it didn't used to be this way.Prior to the mid-1950s, women nursed everywhere, without a covering. My father remembers women nursing in church, on the trolley, in parks, everywhere; it was completely unremarkable in every way. So what happened, what profoundly changed our culture, and why are the ripple effects still so excessive? We think of the pre-50s as being more modest than today...so why was it acceptable and normal to nurse without covering then and not now? And are nursing covers, as handy as some women find them, merely a pacification of women instead of real cultural change and acceptance?
I've seem some scary boobies, so I am glad that they are wearing tents for that reason....
"In my opinion it's a bit disrespectful to assume that everyone should be as comfortable with your breasts as you are, just because it's natural. It's just not that hard to keep it private. And if a nursing wrap helps- more power to you."--Totally agree. I love using my nursing cover. I don't want my in-laws to see my boobs. And it would be really weird to me if my brothers were totally cool with seeing my boobs. Gross. It's natural for them to pee too, but I'm glad they don't whip it out in front of me.Never mind the fact that if my boobs are not covered up, then someone is also pretty likely to get squirted since my girls can easily squirt across the room.
All the political hoo-ha surrounding the issue is beside me. I have nursed all of my babies well past their first year. I have received much flack for it from my own Sisters & close friends. I'm not modest at home, but I am in public. I use the tent for my own body insecurities. IE: questionably positioned breasts that have fed many children past their first birthday & above mentioned muffin top. Ain't no one seeing those goods.(When my current baby was 6 or so weeks old, I nursed in Mimi's cafe on a Friday night in Orem at the table because there was no where else to do it and man alive did I get some stares!!! I wanted to punch peoples eyeballs. )
I don't think nursing covers indicate cultural change and acceptance. Totally the opposite. Because I watch the people who are around covered nursing women, and it is still awkward. Even with the tent shielding their breasts from the world. People will look around, stare at the ceiling, sneak quick glances at the cover and then look around again. Covered or uncovered, our society is not comfortable with breastfeedomg. As I said in my first (of many!) comment, I think the covers in lots of instances make it even more uncomfortable. They suggest that something shameful or gross is going on under there. Lame.
And of course, by breastfeedomg I meant breastfeeding. Nice.
I would say this bring up the point that people are too nosey and too uncomfortable. Is it any of their business that the woman at the next table is nursing? Absolutely not. Just because they are uncomfortable with it doesn't make it their responsibility. Their opinion truly doesn't matter. Nursing, and bottle feeding, are a woman's right. A woman's right to anything is no one's business.
I think these arguments are very interesting. Like you're either one camp or the other...you're either a naturalist or you're not. I don't think that's the case. I breast fed and I'm pro breastfeeding, but I remember too well being that kid whose friends mom's breastfed in front of them and I was uncomfortable. Or being a server at a restaurant and having a women whip her boob out in front of a male co-worker while taking her order. Yes it's NATURAL and GREAT and while I think outlawing breastfeeding in public is ludicrous, I also think it just makes more people comfortable if they don't see boobs in public. Therefore I see no reason women can't cover up. If they don't want to fine, but you should understand on some level you are making others uncomfortable, and therefore you might have to deal with some looks. I'm just saying....
I got one as a gift and I use it in public sometimes. It just sits at the bottom of my diaper bag and I bust it out in a pinch and all is well. Everyone knows what I'm doing but no one has to worry about a surprise nipple so I consider that a win-win.
I got one as a gift and never used it. As for the whole breastfeeding in public issue, I think we have a long way to go. It shouldn't be a big deal (though, sadly, it is for many spectators). Babies need food. End of story.
sorry to be a stalker commenter (i don't know any of you) but i must say that i think the sexualization of our breasts isn't all bad. personally, i like my breasts to be symbolism of sexiness and I want them to be a turn on to my husband (and to myself). although i breastfeed in public, sometimes with and tent, sometimes not, i really don't want our breasts to become as socially sterile as bottles. i'd like to leave a little fun sexual fun and stimulation attached to them...but i'd like that fun to exclude strangers.
Just because something is natural doesn't mean that everyone else needs to see it. I do a couple of other things that are entirely natural that I don't want anyone else seeing, even if they know I am doing them.I don't think covering up is denying our womanhood or anything, it's just being respectful to everyone else.
I was so uncomfortable nursing in public with my first that I didn't nurse my second baby at all. When I discovered these...I bought one and now plan on nursing baby #3...whenever baby #3 comes. I think they are great! When it comes to my own body, I am a modest freak. I don't care what other people choose to do, but I would rather cover up. I don't think that these are to keep people from knowing what you are doing...they are just to keep you from being on display.
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